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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
		<link>http://personalfinancebythebook.com/social-security-strategies-for-married-couples/comment-page-2/#comment-11842</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Plemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  The lower earning spouse has a choice: to claim a “spousal” benefit of up to 50% of the higher earning spouse’s benefit or to claim her own earned benefit.   Even at 81 years old, assuming her husband is still living, she should sign up for the spousal benefit if would be more than what she is currently drawing from her own pension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  The lower earning spouse has a choice: to claim a “spousal” benefit of up to 50% of the higher earning spouse’s benefit or to claim her own earned benefit.   Even at 81 years old, assuming her husband is still living, she should sign up for the spousal benefit if would be more than what she is currently drawing from her own pension.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen hughes</title>
		<link>http://personalfinancebythebook.com/social-security-strategies-for-married-couples/comment-page-2/#comment-11841</link>
		<dc:creator>ellen hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a wife collect 1/2 of husbands ss after years of collecting a very small amount ? She never knew about this law and is 81 yrs old now .

thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a wife collect 1/2 of husbands ss after years of collecting a very small amount ? She never knew about this law and is 81 yrs old now .</p>
<p>thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
		<link>http://personalfinancebythebook.com/social-security-strategies-for-married-couples/comment-page-2/#comment-11724</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Plemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
Assuming you are not drawing your own SS benefit, you could collect a spousal benefit if your wife signs up to start her SS.  I recommend talking to your local SS office to learn how much.

She can earn up to $14,640 in 2012 with no &quot;penalty&quot; from Social Security.  Social Security will deduct $1 for every $2 earned over that amount.  This jumps to $38,880 the year she reaches Full Retirement Age, and there is no limit to earnings after that year. 

Does this help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
Assuming you are not drawing your own SS benefit, you could collect a spousal benefit if your wife signs up to start her SS.  I recommend talking to your local SS office to learn how much.</p>
<p>She can earn up to $14,640 in 2012 with no &#8220;penalty&#8221; from Social Security.  Social Security will deduct $1 for every $2 earned over that amount.  This jumps to $38,880 the year she reaches Full Retirement Age, and there is no limit to earnings after that year. </p>
<p>Does this help?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, Conrad,,
   Interesting subject, but was wondering if I (66) wife (62)  and wife still working, if I can collect spousal benefits ? and how much can she earn ? 
before the deductions apply ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, Conrad,,<br />
   Interesting subject, but was wondering if I (66) wife (62)  and wife still working, if I can collect spousal benefits ? and how much can she earn ?<br />
before the deductions apply ??</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
		<link>http://personalfinancebythebook.com/social-security-strategies-for-married-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-11361</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Plemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the apparent contradiction.  My understanding is that the spousal benefit is not on the table unless you file, at which point her own benefit would then be increased to the spousal benefit because it is larger.

I am glad I ended this article with &quot;Social Security rules change, so I strongly recommend that you check with the Social Security Administration with all of your questions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the apparent contradiction.  My understanding is that the spousal benefit is not on the table unless you file, at which point her own benefit would then be increased to the spousal benefit because it is larger.</p>
<p>I am glad I ended this article with &#8220;Social Security rules change, so I strongly recommend that you check with the Social Security Administration with all of your questions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for looking at my proposal. I too think that the SSA will probably not allow both spouses to collect spousal benefits concurrently. But what about this. My wife files for benefits at 62. As stated above, she would get the larger of her own benefit or spousal benefit, reduced by the early filing penalty. However, I see a contradiction here. In one place, the SSA says you can&#039;t file for a spousal benefit unless your spouse has filed for benefits. But if my wife files and I have not, it says she gets the larger of her own or the spousal benefit. Can she get the spousal benefit without me filing?

If she can, once she files and begins receiving her benfit, I can then file a spousal benefit on her claim and keep my own growing until 70.

Which rule takes precedence, 1) I have to file first before she gets a spousal, or 2) she files and I don&#039;t but she has to get the larger benefit, which in this case is the spousal benefit, even though I have not filed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for looking at my proposal. I too think that the SSA will probably not allow both spouses to collect spousal benefits concurrently. But what about this. My wife files for benefits at 62. As stated above, she would get the larger of her own benefit or spousal benefit, reduced by the early filing penalty. However, I see a contradiction here. In one place, the SSA says you can&#8217;t file for a spousal benefit unless your spouse has filed for benefits. But if my wife files and I have not, it says she gets the larger of her own or the spousal benefit. Can she get the spousal benefit without me filing?</p>
<p>If she can, once she files and begins receiving her benfit, I can then file a spousal benefit on her claim and keep my own growing until 70.</p>
<p>Which rule takes precedence, 1) I have to file first before she gets a spousal, or 2) she files and I don&#8217;t but she has to get the larger benefit, which in this case is the spousal benefit, even though I have not filed?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Plemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way you are thinking outside the box!  First, I am assuming that your wife&#039;s spousal benefit is greater than her own benefit.  Right?  My understanding of spousal benefit is that it is not possible to draw one unless the spouse has filed for benefits.  From SS site: &quot;When a worker files for retirement benefits, the worker&#039;s spouse may be eligible for a benefit based on the worker&#039;s earnings.&quot;  Therefore, you would need to file for your beneift before your wife would be eligible for a spousal beneift.  

However, as indicated in my article, you may be able to file, let your wife sign up for spousal benefit, and then request a voluntary suspension on your benefit.  At that point, your wife would be drawing a spousal benefit while your own benefit, on hold, continues to grow at 8% annually until you turn 70.  Whether you could both file, both sign up for spousal benefits and then both request voluntary suspension of your own benefits while continuing to draw spousal benefits is doubtful.  

Another quote from SS site is, &quot;If a spouse is eligible for a retirement benefit based on his or her own earnings, and if that benefit is higher than the spousal benefit, then we pay the retirement benefit. Otherwise we pay the spousal benefit.&quot;  It appears that you don&#039;t have a choice of spousal or your own benefit...SSA will pay whichever is greater.  

This is confusing stuff.  Did my response help, or make the waters even muddier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the way you are thinking outside the box!  First, I am assuming that your wife&#8217;s spousal benefit is greater than her own benefit.  Right?  My understanding of spousal benefit is that it is not possible to draw one unless the spouse has filed for benefits.  From SS site: &#8220;When a worker files for retirement benefits, the worker&#8217;s spouse may be eligible for a benefit based on the worker&#8217;s earnings.&#8221;  Therefore, you would need to file for your beneift before your wife would be eligible for a spousal beneift.  </p>
<p>However, as indicated in my article, you may be able to file, let your wife sign up for spousal benefit, and then request a voluntary suspension on your benefit.  At that point, your wife would be drawing a spousal benefit while your own benefit, on hold, continues to grow at 8% annually until you turn 70.  Whether you could both file, both sign up for spousal benefits and then both request voluntary suspension of your own benefits while continuing to draw spousal benefits is doubtful.  </p>
<p>Another quote from SS site is, &#8220;If a spouse is eligible for a retirement benefit based on his or her own earnings, and if that benefit is higher than the spousal benefit, then we pay the retirement benefit. Otherwise we pay the spousal benefit.&#8221;  It appears that you don&#8217;t have a choice of spousal or your own benefit&#8230;SSA will pay whichever is greater.  </p>
<p>This is confusing stuff.  Did my response help, or make the waters even muddier?</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

I need to correct my scenario in the previous post. When my wife is 62 and takes a reduced spousal benefit, I will already be at FRA and would take a full spousal benefit on her record. I would then take my own benefit at 70 and she would later take her own benefit at 70 also. Although her benefit would be reduced because she took the spousal at 62, it still would be greater than remaining on the spousal benefit. Can this be done? Can she let her regular benefit grow until 70, even though she already is collecting a reduced spousal benefit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I need to correct my scenario in the previous post. When my wife is 62 and takes a reduced spousal benefit, I will already be at FRA and would take a full spousal benefit on her record. I would then take my own benefit at 70 and she would later take her own benefit at 70 also. Although her benefit would be reduced because she took the spousal at 62, it still would be greater than remaining on the spousal benefit. Can this be done? Can she let her regular benefit grow until 70, even though she already is collecting a reduced spousal benefit?</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

I am hopeful that my savings, supplemented by some part-time consulting, will pay the bills until I reach 70.

Now let me throw something out-of-the-box at you. My plan is to have my wife take her reduced benefit at 62 and then me take a spousal benefit, letting my own benefit grow until 70. Is it possible for my wife to take a reduced spousal benefit on my record when she turns 62, and then me simultaneously take a spousal benefit on her record. Then, when he each reach our FRA, we take our own benefits. I can&#039;t find anything regarding dual simultaneous spousal benefits - what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I am hopeful that my savings, supplemented by some part-time consulting, will pay the bills until I reach 70.</p>
<p>Now let me throw something out-of-the-box at you. My plan is to have my wife take her reduced benefit at 62 and then me take a spousal benefit, letting my own benefit grow until 70. Is it possible for my wife to take a reduced spousal benefit on my record when she turns 62, and then me simultaneously take a spousal benefit on her record. Then, when he each reach our FRA, we take our own benefits. I can&#8217;t find anything regarding dual simultaneous spousal benefits &#8211; what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Plemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Plemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is also my understanding -- that the survival benefit is the only exception to the penalties for early benefits.   Assuming we are right, I totally concur with your plan.  One possible downside is that money might be a little tight for the four years leading up to when you turn 70.  Will you continue to work until you are 70?  

One overlooked benefit of your plan is the amount of life insurance you WON&#039;T have to buy because of the maximum survivor benefit you and your spouse will both be in line for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is also my understanding &#8212; that the survival benefit is the only exception to the penalties for early benefits.   Assuming we are right, I totally concur with your plan.  One possible downside is that money might be a little tight for the four years leading up to when you turn 70.  Will you continue to work until you are 70?  </p>
<p>One overlooked benefit of your plan is the amount of life insurance you WON&#8217;T have to buy because of the maximum survivor benefit you and your spouse will both be in line for.</p>
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